
The Passenger Pigeon, which numbered once in the tens of billions, lived in North America east of the Rocky Mountains.
Their flocks, a mile wide and up to 300 miles long, were so dense that they covered the entire sky for hours as the flock passed overhead.
Population estimates from the 19th century ranged from 1 billion to close to 4 billion individuals.
Total populations could well have reached 5 billion individuals and the passenger pigeon comprised about 40% of the total number of birds in North America.

Passenger Pigeon
This may be the only species in the entire world for which the exact time of extinction is known down to the moment it happened.
The Passenger Pigeon was similar to but larger than the Mourning Dove.
It was slate blue on its head and bottom, a gray back and a lovely wine red breast.
Male coloration was deeper and brighter than the female. The eye was scarlet.
The short, black bill, slender in its makeup was well suited to the diets the birds ate, which were acorns, beechnuts, chestnuts, various fruits, grains and insects.
Tens of thousands of individuals were harvested daily by hunters, who hunted into their nesting colonies and shipped them to markets to be processed.
Our very advances in technology helped to speed the death and extinction of this beautiful bird
The telegraph would help to spread where the locations of flocks could be ascertained, and the birds were hunted relentlessly, then modern shipping saw to their shipment for markets
A remarkable bird, all estimates say that the passenger pigeon could reach speeds of 70 miles per hour and sometimes faster.
The last Passenger Pigeon, Martha, died completely alone at the Cincinnati Zoo at about 1:00 pm on September 1, 1914.
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i need to do a science folio about extinct and endangered species
I saw a British T.V programme on 18th of Feb, called The Dodo’s Guide to Survival. This alaso recalled the plight of the Pasenger Pigeon. I work in conservation with The Birmingham Ranger Service, and deal with bird life alot. and was horified at what mankind did to this wonderful beautiful bird. I almost felt ashamed to be human for a few minutes. It has affected me emotionally for days since and each time I see a pigeon I feel physically ill. Thank God for the R.S.P.B, and the mind boggles at what people might have done to wood pigeons. collared doves ferals, stock doves etc.
I can only hope that with modern technology and cloning , maybe we may see The Passenger Pigeon return to our trees, rooftops, and fields.
I have played three songs this week to pay homage to Columba migratorius Jimi Hendrix – Little Wing, Lenny Kravitz – I want To Get Away, and Fly Away and Led Zeppelin – Night Flight.
Now don’t go making yourself sick over this. The truth is they are only believed to be extinct. I have seen a small population of passenger pigeon in Pennsylvania. If we don’t destroy any more nesting grounds they still have a chance. I did manage to get some pictures of the one that didn’t immediately fly away. Let me know if anyone is interrested in seeing them.
PLEASE – PLEASE – PLEASE email your passenger pigeon photos. I live in PA & am an avid pigeon enthusiast having raised many different breeds. (((((^_^)))))
I would indeed be interested in seeing these birds, id you would be kind enough to email me the images.
Many Thanks
Malcolm Jacques
I would gladly send you the pictures. Just need an email address.
Kevin
Kevin B you know you said you had video of your passenger pigeon sighting but you accidentally taped over it are you sure you don’t have a copy of it somewhere if you do tell me.
I would also love to see the photos … My heart breaks at the fate of such a lovely bird … have you ever sent these photos to an agency that might be able to protect these birds (that is, if they are confirmed to be Passenger pidgeons)? Thankfully, species thought extinct are sometimes rediscovered in small numbers and need all of our help! Please let someone – such as an animal conservation group – know about your finding. I am sure many, many, many of them would be interested. Good luck.
Are your photos available to artists to use as reference photos? I would even be interested in paying a fee for use.
Thank you
Deborah
im doing a folder of extinct animals i need about 8
im doing a folder of extinct animals i need about 8
The passenger pigeon was a great bird, its almost sad to know that even second hand accounts of the bird cannot be told, due to the amount of time that has passed. In 1914, my grandparents had yet to be born. Kevin i would love to see th pictures you have. If you would, please email them to me at justfresh50@yahoo.com
Justin C
Hell, yeah, I’d be interested in seeing your photos of the “Passenger Pigeons”! If only it were true… Are you sure you weren’t seeing a mourning dove, or even an off-colored rock pigeon?
please give me all nice birds. thanks and i like pigeons.
The existence of an extinct species such as the passenger pigeon would be encouraging. E-mail photo please.
Kevin B., Please send me pictures at ewest21@hotmail.com!
From what molecular geneticists say, it could be possible to clone the passenger pigeon from existing genetic material in preserved birds of that species. Doing that would be a very good test of genetic technique, anyway.
I’d like very much to see photos of the Pennsylvania group of passenger pigeons.
Kevin,
Is there any way you could send me pictures also, I would really like to see them!
Joe
In cloning recently extinct species, apparently existing nuclei would be removed from eggs of a related species, and dna recovered from the extinct species placed into those eggs. They would then be incubated. First solve the problems in restoring simple species such as frogs, then go on to more comlex species. It would be necessary to select species that are likely to recover. Passenger pigeons and dodos are among those most treasured, though its not clear they would be most likely to recover significant population.
The rallying cry could be ‘Clone the Dodo’.
I email everyone my pictures to everyone upon request but I need your email address. The pictures are lacking quality due to the great distance they were taken from.
I am 100% positive they are of a real living Passenger Pigeon. I have studied wildlife my entire life. Which amounts to many decades of real world experience actually being out in the woods not just reading about it in books. Don’t get me wrong there are alot of knowledge to be learned from books but I always been a firm believer that there is no replacement for hands on experience.
I just recently purchased a high quality camera and I am anticipating this spring I will be able to produce enough evidence to validate my claims.
From what I understand no one has been able to successfully clone any species of bird at all. So I think expecting someone to be able to resurrect an extinct species from a living relatives DNA is so far off I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Please send pictures. I am hoping you have a find.
Where at in PA did you see these birds? I would love to go and get some pictures this spring. Send me a private email, please?
This is interesting because both ideas are low in probability but have serious chances of being true. A species of woodpecker was found just a few years ago living in the wild – I forget which kind – which was thought to be extinct since the early 1900′s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_that_have_been_cloned
has a list that includes carp, recently. Molecular biologists are very progressive and make huge jumps. like from yeast, to more complex organisms. Resurrecting an extinct species is likely to be high on their list.
It would not have to start with an extinct species, just breed a member of one species by grafting it onto the reproductive cycle of a similar but distinguishable species.
True, though, it’s not something to hold one’s breath over.
omg could you send me some of those pics pleassseeeeeess
Please send me the pictures as well. For a good read on some of our extinct bird species I highly recommend “Hope is the thing with feathers”! It has chapters on the passenger pigeon, ivory billed woodpecker and the Carolina parakeet. It has been a while since I read it but do remember how fascinating it was. For a review of the book:
http://www.amazon.com/Hope-Thing-Feathers-Personal-Chronicle/dp/0446677493?tag=dogpile-20
I would love to see the photo’s of Passenger Pigeons if they are available from anyone.
What about persuading the owner of It’s Nature website to host a photo? One or two of the best would go a long way.
Please be patient like I said before I have some pictures but they are not deffinative due to the poor quality. If you can wait a few months I should have undisputable high quality photo’s and possibly HD video.
This will be a major news story you will hear about soon.
I sure hope that you have identified them correctly. If so it would be the find of lifetime! Can you please send whatever photos you have?
Thanks,
Todd
We’d love to host any photos you may have on it’s nature! please send any pictures/videos to info@itsnature.org and we will credit you in return. Thanks!
Good luck Kevin B. I hope you pruduce some worthy news. This could be fantastic! Please include me on your updates wfmciver@gmail.com Thanks.
There were some years before the Passenger Pigeon went extinct that conservationist tried to save the species. The problem was that the species number had gotten to low so the species collapsed. One of the traits of the Passenger pigeon was it needed a large colony to breed and raise its young. Get only a couple of Passenger Pigeons together and they wouldn’t breed. This is why those early attempts to save the Passenger Pigeon while they are alive failed.
Thought to be extinct species rediscovered does happen. I wouldn’t hold my breath on the Passenger Pigeon.
The Ivory Billed Woodpecker is a different story but the jury is still out. It needs to be independently verified, but it does need to be in a flock so there is more hope.
If Kevin B can provide the evidence it would be shocking. He would definitely get his 15 minutes of fame.
I want to see the pictures.
Usually I don’t pay attention to what people type related to this species, because it’s either they say they’ve seen one or caught one.. stupid attention seekers. Well, they don’t have concrete evidence to prove this and after what I’ve seen in this thread, The infamous Kevin B says he actually photographed one.
You caught me, convincing. I would like to see these photos. All these time I thought they were Instinct.
And as Mark Sullivan said, If you can provide the evidence you might get your “15 minutes” of Fame.
Send them to me, Izanagi_Zetsumei@yahoo.com
Goodluck, Cheers.
Has anyone actually seen the pictures?
Ok -> I saw them… & it looks just like a blurry photo of a regular ol’ Mourning Dove to me
Hmmm – now let me inject a little common sense:
With all the hunting of doves in Pennsylvania & sooo many other states…literally by the millions & millions each Autumn –>
Don’t you think one hunter would accidentally shoot one of these supposedly extinct passenger pigeons & report it if it were still around for all the fame & media stampede???
Just trying to stay rational here.
I appreciate everyones support and even your scepticism. I will try and address all your concerns as to why this shouldn’t be possible.
Lets start with the theory “One of the traits of the Passenger pigeon was it needed a large colony to breed and raise its young.”
I think the real problem was Passenger Pigeons needed to breed in a large colony for us to be able to find them. I read every written account of hunting Passenger Pigeons and to me it doesn’t sound like hunting to me. Flocks were so large all you had to do was follow and kill indisciminately. We never developed the skills to hunt small flocks because we never needed to due to the overpopulated million bird flocks. We never learned the important things that made it possible to find smaller flocks. For example preferred habitat, preferred foods, preferred home range, ect,.
Ok on to “Why hasn’t a hunter accidently shot one?”. There are many different reasons for this. First off dove hunting isn’t that popular around here. I honestly do not know anyone that actively hunts dove here in Pennsylvania. Seems very popular out west but not around here.
Another reason dove hunting season in PA is sometime in September. By mid July the fledging pigeons are encouraged heavily by their parents to fly. It is actually a group flock effort I find very interresting. If you have studied what little information there is about Passenger Pigeons many reports say that the trees would be so full of Pigeons large limbs would break off under the combined weight of the birds. From my own observations I understand why they did this. This was done on purpose to pressure the fledgelings to fly. Many birds force their young to learn Passenger Pigeons had a different approach instead of pushing from the nest they broke the branch or limb the young were standing on.
I would love 15 minutes of fame but I will share what I know about their preferred breeding habitat to give everyone a chance to find them. Hopefully someone with access to this type of habitat will read this and get lucky enough to see them.
They prefer to lay their eggs in large conifer trees growing along a ledge or cliff. First time I saw them they were in an oak tree on the edge of an abandoned coal strip mining pit. In this part of PA there are thousands of these abandoned mining pits. They would probably be using similair sites further south in the Appalachians. I imagine stone quarries would also make a suitable breeding habitat. Mines are quarries are not open to the public for hunting or hiking or tresspassing in anyway so anyone that would see them would most likely be tresspassing and the incident would go unreported.
Workers and owners would not report them even if they did know what they were looking at. They would imediately be on the endangered species list and therefore their breeding grounds would be protected by Federal Law. I think mining and wildlife conservation could work together since the birds seem to prefer their land already I think mines and quarries could still operate without affecting the birds breeding.
I will now explain why I think captive breeding failed. I think it mostly had to do with their diet. We didn’t understand what they needed to eat. Everything you read says they ate acorns, chestnuts, and other seeds and grains. A large flock wouldn’t have much choice but to eat anything that was available. The few occassions I have observed these birds feeding were eating insects. One was eating some sort of grubs off a dead standing tree and another was eating insect off tree buds. I think insects are the preferred food but a flock of a million birds would have depleted the insect population so quickly they would of had to settle for anything left.
Almost forgot to cover what I know about their migration. They arrive to PA around mid March, could be a coincidence but the only migration I observed happened to be the morning after the full moon. Smaller flocks prefer to migrate predawn hours of the morning. The large million bird flocks took hours to pass threw an area but early morning is the preferred time.
Hopefully what I type here makes sense to some of you that read this. I do not wish to force my opinion on anyone just please keep an open mind if you see something that looks like a very large red eyed dove please take a picture and you can have the 15 minutes of fame. I can see the headlines now “Greatest Wildlife Survival Story of All Time”. You never know could be your picture under that headline.
Thanks,
Kevin
Ok – let me 1st clarify –> I’m an avid outdoor enthusiast & dove hunter.
Mourning Doves are delicious & I view their controlled harvest as a prudent approach to conservation.
For the record – I also have raised countless pigeons of all sorts & relish the hobby.
Though I’ve had many exotic birds, my all-time favorite was a friendly little barn pigeon that I hand-fed as a squab to adulthood.
My own pp experience – Recently, I spied several similar birds to those aforementioned while I was out hiking down here in Nottingham County Park PA.
LORD – Sure wish I had my camera with me that day!!!
Overall – they looked to me very much like a few Jumbo-sized Mourning Doves. They were all pecking @ some gravel along the trail.
Alas – as I approached them about 5 seconds of observation they flew away.
Hmmm… now IF these actually were passenger pigeons & IF the many other PA sightings are found to be legitimate, then I feel maybe evolution somehow gave these few remaining birds ancestors an edge to survive by adapting their behavior in ways that sustained the scattered remnants of the once vast empire of their kind.
Certainly Nature enables creatures to change & those adaptations are sometimes advantageous.
Another theory – kinda X-Files, but certainly not impossible with the advances made in cloning etc: Is that some scientists have seemingly resurrected the species & are secretly reintroducing them to the wild. Far-fetched sure, but with today’s technology it is not necessarily the stuff of science fiction.
So – what we really need is some crystal clear footage…obviously HD video would be best & maybe a few feather for DNA analysis. Such evidence must be conclusive.
I propose we start a Club…
Call it the Passenger Pigeon Consortium (((((^_^))))) PPC
15 minutes could easily become a lifetime of joy as we witness future generations experience the thrill of seeing with their own eyes that despite the odds – life prevails.
So – who is ready to join?
Gary,
I’ll join the Consortium if it’s not too dear.
It might be useful to extend the name to suggest several species because more than
one seems to be extinct by the hand of Man.
The idea of resurrection was also in the phrase “clone the dodo” which was floating around.
Lemmesee, that would be PPD.
Here in Washington several herds of buffalo exist. Always small, they are an important
reminder.
With the passenger pigeon, resurrecting species which we ourselves extinguished becomes a
more important moral goal. It’s a good idea, and will also produce the same kind of data which
is obtained from cloning any kind of species.
Michael Lewis
Seattle